[Claude you sure do demand a lot. But she does try, and when she hears Claude's knock and demanding hail, she crosses the room to open the door.]
Well, when you insist like that it's hard to say no.
[Living above the clinic as she does, one might think that privacy is hard to find. Sometimes it is, and in a way, that's by design--Ethlyn wants to know the very instant there's an emergency she needs to respond to.
But she still has a refuge upstairs, and that's where she takes Claude. She even does have a little hotplate, one that somehow works via 'induction', for when she needs a private mug of something hot and soothing, and a little sitting area.
The desk, however, is piled high with papers rather than books, and a spiral notebook full of notes and inexpert sketches of people and places.]
[ Claude sweeps in like he owns the place - a bearing Ethlyn is well used to by now, being that that's how he walks everywhere - and immediately sets to setting the table up, taking out the tea and the little sandwiches and pastries he'd brought with them. He sets them down between them a little pointedly, urging Ethlyn to take some and eat.
He may be a bit pithy with it, but he's not lying; he does believe in difficult conversations over food and drink. There is a tendency in many, even in himself, to starve themselves of what every human needs during difficult times, when what they really need is to foster themselves, with food and drink, with company, with sunlight and fresh air. He can provide at least a few of those. ]
I would. [ Some of that brittle cheerfulness falls away, and the smile directed at Ethlyn is a gentle one. ] Tell me all about her. And don't worry if it takes some time to get your thoughts together -- I've been told I'm a surprisingly patient man.
[She is... well, quite frankly, she's so used to men not being so self-sufficient that Claude taking charge of the table is charmingly novel, and the display gets a smile from her. The little sandwiches are very welcome, too. It's not that she forgets to eat when she's stressed... but she will push it further and further back, and what she ends up eating probably isn't very good for her.]
All right. [She takes the time to finish her sandwich as she works out how to put Ayra into words.] The first time I saw Ayra was on the battlefield. She was... terrifying to have as an enemy.
I didn't know anything at first, except that she was a swordswoman of Isaach, which Grannvale already warred with. Of course she would be fighting alongside Grannvale's newest enemy. But in truth, the only reason she was there was because her nephew was being held hostage--his safety for her service as a swordswoman.
So she was an enemy, [ Claude says, raising his brows. He had assumed that Ethlyn would naturally be speaking of family, of friends, of comrades and loved ones she needs to keep straight. But it makes sense for there to be more adversarial relationships involved too, even ones that wound up in a more positive place in the end.
Which he has to assume is the case for this woman as well, considering she was a sellsword under duress and not a true loyal to the other side. ]
And you offered to help secure her nephew's safety?
It happened by accident. My brother found him when he got into the castle. After that, we were able to talk to her--convince her that we had no intention of hurting him. He was just a boy, after all.
[A boy who was heir to a throne at war with their nation. The charge of giving shelter to young Shannan had been flung at Sigurd's feet as part of Chalphy's treason. But the war with Isaach had been so suspicious. There had been something wrong... had matters not escalated the way they did, maybe they could have gotten to the bottom of it.]
Ayra had promised her brother the king to protect Shannan, and she pledged her sword to us when we sheltered him. [Ethlyn shuts her eyes, bringing them both to mind.] She was so different than women I've met in Grannvale... sharper edges, harder eyes.
...Grannvale said their people were barbarians. But the two of them were anything but.
Ah. That's the sort of luck that makes one believe in fate, don't you think?
[ What are the chances? That the one person with the power to do something about it would find the boy in the castle, that the very same person in charge of diplomacy was able to negotiate with someone who could have been a fearsome thorn in their side, that understanding could be born of strife?
Claude's not so sure he believes in fate. But he'd like to, a little. Ask him again when the fated five years pass and he sees for once and for all whether or not Teach is returning to them. It has both nothing and everything to do with what Ethlyn is describing now, a tentative truce between people of creeds that couldn't be more separate from one another. ]
You're pretty sharp yourself, Ethlyn, [ Claude says, good humour tinging his tone, but he sobers quickly thereafter. ] It sounds like our worlds are, once again, more similar than I'd think them. What did she have to say about you and your people? That they considered you cowards, perhaps? Or did they not think such things about you at all?
[Fate? Perhaps. That would mean that she and her family and so many others were fated to fail and die. What does that mean for their children?]
She reminded my brother--warned him--that our countries are still at war. [She takes a sip of tea. Ayra had spoken to Quan about the strange and suspicious causes of the war. She knew that Loptrian priests had manipulated the rulers of Verdane and Agustria into their ill-considered wars... it wouldn't surprise her if that was the case for Isaach's sudden aggression.] They thought us... perfidious. Isaach's king was traveling to negotiate an end to the war and was assassinated on the way.
His son and the people blamed Grannvale. And... I'm sure it's true. [Her hands tighten around the teacup. Dukes Lombard and Reptor and Arvis, all scheming and making everyone else pay the price for their ambitions.] They had cause enough to think us devious.
That's the problem with matters of nobility, isn't it? It comes down to the leader, not the people.
[ Even someone as ambitious as Claude can admit to that. That the wrondoing of a precious few can lead to a war raging across a country of innocents hasn't escaped him. He doesn't know any way to resolve this, not in a way he's willing to do (he does want power, after all, thinks that he's best suited for it), but the tragedy strikes him all the same. ]
If your heir doesn't agree with the way you do things, then that's that.
[ He harbours the fear of something similar -- of his father perishing, and Shahid waging war upon all of Fodlan. ]
[Ethlyn finds herself smiling a smile tinged with irony... bitterness, even. Since her sentencing, she has been thinking on the events of the past few years in Jugdral, looking for the places where things could have gone differently. And she has to admit, she has found more than one... and more than one of those comes down to the decisions of the Chalphy family.]
Yes. Even... well-intentioned leaders can make things worse if they aren't careful.
[Heirs... the heirs of the Crusaders somehow shot in all kinds of directions. From the splintering of the Thracian peninsula to Hoðr's descendants losing the throne to Grannvale's ducal houses being at each other's throats, when they should have remained united in friendship and purpose.]
My brother was an honest man. To a fault, perhaps, but he never played Ayra false, and he sheltered her nephew with no motive other than keeping a child safe from enemies he hadn't done anything to deserve. Sigurd proved himself trustworthy to her, and she honored that by continuing to fight alongside him.
I didn't think your brother was anything but, if he followed in your footsteps. [ Odd as it may be to say that an older brother could live in his younger sister's footsteps -- but he's heard enough about their family dynamics to know by now that Ethlyn had slipped into the role of her mother despite her young age, and that even if they didn't admit to it, her father and brother alike had looked at her for guidance. A mother's lot is more than planning parties and saving face; she leads the way in the difference between right and wrong, what one can feel proud of and what can feel ashamed of, of how one is supposed to conduct themselves. (This was a task in which Claude's own mother had failed quite terribly at, which Claude is quite fond of, but that's neither here nor there.) ]
I'm only glad that she stood by him. It's no easy thing, to fight alongside that which you'd once despised. [ Ethlyn knows his own thoughts on the matter. They're not worth lingering on. ] ... does it feel clearer now? To talk about her?
It isn't. I don't think I appreciated that as much as I should have.
[What she had known about Isaach before the war was that it lay across a steep mountain range, and that for all their mastery of the sword, their pride far outstripped their might. Grannvale's military was more sophisticated in every way that counted in a war, and that war had been provoked by an Isaachian raid in the first place.
But that doesn't make Isaach's people less. Ayra had been loyal, short-tempered, stalwart, even funny. She brushed her hair and stubbed her toe occasionally, like everyone else. And her mind, her understanding of the situation Isaach and Grannvale had landed themselves in, was anything but unsophisticated. The same holds true for Jamke.]
It does feel clearer. I can see her face better--not so much like a frozen picture, not a blur of hair and a sword. [she smiles a little.] Her hair was magnificent.
Hard to appreciate much of anything when you're marching off to war, [ Claude points out. It's a tendency of Ethlyn's to lean on self-flagellation -- a symptom of leadership, in Claude's opinion, and not necessarily a bad one. For your decisions, good or bad, for how it influences the commoners and soldiers and politics alike, you must take full responsibility. But in daily life...
Well, he thinks that she could do with being a bit easier on herself, all said and done. For whatever mistakes she had made, she's been punished and then some. This ought to be her blissful afterlife. Instead, she's struggling through the trials and tribulations of this new, unfair world, in which your efforts and tactics and decisions don't seem to matter one bit. ]
Go easy on yourself, my friend. We cannot all be wisened beyond our years abot everything. [ Still -- he looks genuinely cheered to hear that it had helped. ] But I'm glad that it does. I'm... surprised that that's where you started.
[ And not elsewhere. Not somewhere closer, fonder. ]
[Ethlyn manages a smile. It's... good to hear someone else say that. Ever since she worked out the reason her memories are at war with each other, she has simply not able to feel anything but ashamed for her lack of courage. And with that, other shame has followed on its heels. Ashamed for the things she believed unquestioningly, for not seeing dangers close to home, for not connecting two and two even about people she knew.]
Ayra was... so brave. Not just in battle, but to trust in her judgment of my brother's heart. She was someone I never would have guessed would join us. The princess of an enemy nation, who hated us for assassinating their king, so that they had no choice but to fight us to the death.
[She gets up for a moment to shuffle through the pile of notes on her desk until she finds one in particular, and places it down on the table as she sits again.
It is a picture of Ayra. Ethlyn is a moderate artist at best; she learned to do sketches when studying anatomy, so she knows things like 'the eyes are actually in the middle.' But this is Ayra from the back. Her long black hair, the sketch trailing off into the long slits of her gown flapping over her trousers, the muscles of the arm that holds a long sword.]
I would never have known someone like her in that false life this place gave us.
It was faith, [ Claude says simply. ] Faith with consequences, stronger than any faith one has in any deity.
[ Blasphemous, no doubt, even to Ethlyn -- but he says it with the quiet confidence of someone who isn't saying it for the sake of it. It isn't that Claude is a non-believer. He believes that the Goddess existed in some fashion, believes in the gods of the sea, the sky, the earth and the air, believes in a greater spiritualism that binds them together. But faith in a deity takes very little bravery, when the only consequence is that your faith will not be rewarded.
Faith in your fellow man? That is far, far more difficult. ]
I'm glad it was given to you, once it was earned. Many times, faith has been earned, but isn't so freely given. [ He takes a sip of his own tea, letting the bitter, woody flavour wash over his tongue. ]
There wasn't much to inspire faith in that false life, though. It felt as though... it was conjuring up a life that was simpler, more peaceful than the one that we'd known. To convince us to carry on with the lie, perhaps. I'm still not sure what to make of it.
[It's always interesting to hear Claude's thoughts on serious matters. For all his lighthearted airs, Ethlyn suspects that there are few subjects on which he has not thought long and deeply.
The intercession of Jugdral's gods was so recent that it's hard for her not to have faith in them. A mere one hundred-eight years ago. Her great-grandparents had been children of the continent's heroes, the ones touched by gods, and that blessing still ran strong in her father and brother.
But a god is a distant and remote being. The human next to you? A very different matter. Ethlyn would like to see Claude and Ayra meet now... she would like to see Ayra again herself, and ask her directly about this.]
...That is sadly true. Trust is so very difficult to give. [She sighs, looking into her teacup.] There were no stakes in that life, nothing that had any kind of risk beyond temporary embarrassment. Certainly nothing that would make us need to trust or suspect.
Why do you think we were given those chances to regain our memories?
[It's a question that occurred to her when she spoke to Ange about it. Those artifacts and heirlooms, they were put there by someone. But the motive... Ethlyn still isn't sure.]
[ He can't figure it out. If the powers-that-be here are able to make them docile and powerless at-will, then why wouldn't they do so all the time? Is it for their own amusement? Some strange attempt at true rehabilitation? Was it to prove a point?
It doesn't make sense. It's impossible for it to make sense, because whoever is in charge doesn't think like an ordinary human being, their reasonings myopic, vague, senseless. ]
I would say they wanted to give us a choice, but we didn't have one, in the end. We were all returned to our original forms. Or perhaps it was to test us, and our dedication to our past lives, but it's difficult to gauge dedication when we didn't even remember them -- the only reason I ran towards mine wasn't out of any respect for who I used to be, but because I'm terribly nosy. Or maybe it was to convince us that our life in Aldrip is better, and we're better off staying here than going home.
[Ethlyn taps her fingers against her teacup. For once, she decides, she is going to think. The Chalphys have always acted first, acted on conscience and with good intentions, but it seems that they've managed to knock things over in their rush to do what was right and good.]
We do keep talking about they. The Council, presumably. It could just have been a method to test our dedication, but... I wonder if they aren't actually a monolith.
Maybe the difference is simply that I failed the test and you didn't--but most people were just as nosy or stubborn as you, and they picked up every thing that came into view. Maybe it was a way to make the illusion fail over the whole town.
Maybe. Honestly, I'm beginning to consider the possibility that the Council itself is just a big front. It's possible that all of this is just being fielded by one person, and the Council is to give us a handy enemy to rage against while the real decision makers remain well out of reach.
[ He laces his fingers together atop the table. ]
I don't believe you failed any test. Frankly, I think they just want to spread discordance and confusion -- or maybe they think some people will grow complacent here, if they remember a happier life. [ He glances out the window. ]
Or it was an error. And we were all brought there so they could figure out this new city, and everything we saw and went through is seen as negligible.
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Well, when you insist like that it's hard to say no.
[Living above the clinic as she does, one might think that privacy is hard to find. Sometimes it is, and in a way, that's by design--Ethlyn wants to know the very instant there's an emergency she needs to respond to.
But she still has a refuge upstairs, and that's where she takes Claude. She even does have a little hotplate, one that somehow works via 'induction', for when she needs a private mug of something hot and soothing, and a little sitting area.
The desk, however, is piled high with papers rather than books, and a spiral notebook full of notes and inexpert sketches of people and places.]
...Would you like to hear about Ayra?
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He may be a bit pithy with it, but he's not lying; he does believe in difficult conversations over food and drink. There is a tendency in many, even in himself, to starve themselves of what every human needs during difficult times, when what they really need is to foster themselves, with food and drink, with company, with sunlight and fresh air. He can provide at least a few of those. ]
I would. [ Some of that brittle cheerfulness falls away, and the smile directed at Ethlyn is a gentle one. ] Tell me all about her. And don't worry if it takes some time to get your thoughts together -- I've been told I'm a surprisingly patient man.
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All right. [She takes the time to finish her sandwich as she works out how to put Ayra into words.] The first time I saw Ayra was on the battlefield. She was... terrifying to have as an enemy.
I didn't know anything at first, except that she was a swordswoman of Isaach, which Grannvale already warred with. Of course she would be fighting alongside Grannvale's newest enemy. But in truth, the only reason she was there was because her nephew was being held hostage--his safety for her service as a swordswoman.
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Which he has to assume is the case for this woman as well, considering she was a sellsword under duress and not a true loyal to the other side. ]
And you offered to help secure her nephew's safety?
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[A boy who was heir to a throne at war with their nation. The charge of giving shelter to young Shannan had been flung at Sigurd's feet as part of Chalphy's treason. But the war with Isaach had been so suspicious. There had been something wrong... had matters not escalated the way they did, maybe they could have gotten to the bottom of it.]
Ayra had promised her brother the king to protect Shannan, and she pledged her sword to us when we sheltered him. [Ethlyn shuts her eyes, bringing them both to mind.] She was so different than women I've met in Grannvale... sharper edges, harder eyes.
...Grannvale said their people were barbarians. But the two of them were anything but.
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[ What are the chances? That the one person with the power to do something about it would find the boy in the castle, that the very same person in charge of diplomacy was able to negotiate with someone who could have been a fearsome thorn in their side, that understanding could be born of strife?
Claude's not so sure he believes in fate. But he'd like to, a little. Ask him again when the fated five years pass and he sees for once and for all whether or not Teach is returning to them. It has both nothing and everything to do with what Ethlyn is describing now, a tentative truce between people of creeds that couldn't be more separate from one another. ]
You're pretty sharp yourself, Ethlyn, [ Claude says, good humour tinging his tone, but he sobers quickly thereafter. ] It sounds like our worlds are, once again, more similar than I'd think them. What did she have to say about you and your people? That they considered you cowards, perhaps? Or did they not think such things about you at all?
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She reminded my brother--warned him--that our countries are still at war. [She takes a sip of tea. Ayra had spoken to Quan about the strange and suspicious causes of the war. She knew that Loptrian priests had manipulated the rulers of Verdane and Agustria into their ill-considered wars... it wouldn't surprise her if that was the case for Isaach's sudden aggression.] They thought us... perfidious. Isaach's king was traveling to negotiate an end to the war and was assassinated on the way.
His son and the people blamed Grannvale. And... I'm sure it's true. [Her hands tighten around the teacup. Dukes Lombard and Reptor and Arvis, all scheming and making everyone else pay the price for their ambitions.] They had cause enough to think us devious.
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[ Even someone as ambitious as Claude can admit to that. That the wrondoing of a precious few can lead to a war raging across a country of innocents hasn't escaped him. He doesn't know any way to resolve this, not in a way he's willing to do (he does want power, after all, thinks that he's best suited for it), but the tragedy strikes him all the same. ]
If your heir doesn't agree with the way you do things, then that's that.
[ He harbours the fear of something similar -- of his father perishing, and Shahid waging war upon all of Fodlan. ]
What did she do then, knowing your true nature?
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Yes. Even... well-intentioned leaders can make things worse if they aren't careful.
[Heirs... the heirs of the Crusaders somehow shot in all kinds of directions. From the splintering of the Thracian peninsula to Hoðr's descendants losing the throne to Grannvale's ducal houses being at each other's throats, when they should have remained united in friendship and purpose.]
My brother was an honest man. To a fault, perhaps, but he never played Ayra false, and he sheltered her nephew with no motive other than keeping a child safe from enemies he hadn't done anything to deserve. Sigurd proved himself trustworthy to her, and she honored that by continuing to fight alongside him.
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I'm only glad that she stood by him. It's no easy thing, to fight alongside that which you'd once despised. [ Ethlyn knows his own thoughts on the matter. They're not worth lingering on. ] ... does it feel clearer now? To talk about her?
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[What she had known about Isaach before the war was that it lay across a steep mountain range, and that for all their mastery of the sword, their pride far outstripped their might. Grannvale's military was more sophisticated in every way that counted in a war, and that war had been provoked by an Isaachian raid in the first place.
But that doesn't make Isaach's people less. Ayra had been loyal, short-tempered, stalwart, even funny. She brushed her hair and stubbed her toe occasionally, like everyone else. And her mind, her understanding of the situation Isaach and Grannvale had landed themselves in, was anything but unsophisticated. The same holds true for Jamke.]
It does feel clearer. I can see her face better--not so much like a frozen picture, not a blur of hair and a sword. [she smiles a little.] Her hair was magnificent.
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Well, he thinks that she could do with being a bit easier on herself, all said and done. For whatever mistakes she had made, she's been punished and then some. This ought to be her blissful afterlife. Instead, she's struggling through the trials and tribulations of this new, unfair world, in which your efforts and tactics and decisions don't seem to matter one bit. ]
Go easy on yourself, my friend. We cannot all be wisened beyond our years abot everything. [ Still -- he looks genuinely cheered to hear that it had helped. ] But I'm glad that it does. I'm... surprised that that's where you started.
[ And not elsewhere. Not somewhere closer, fonder. ]
What made you think of her?
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Ayra was... so brave. Not just in battle, but to trust in her judgment of my brother's heart. She was someone I never would have guessed would join us. The princess of an enemy nation, who hated us for assassinating their king, so that they had no choice but to fight us to the death.
[She gets up for a moment to shuffle through the pile of notes on her desk until she finds one in particular, and places it down on the table as she sits again.
It is a picture of Ayra. Ethlyn is a moderate artist at best; she learned to do sketches when studying anatomy, so she knows things like 'the eyes are actually in the middle.' But this is Ayra from the back. Her long black hair, the sketch trailing off into the long slits of her gown flapping over her trousers, the muscles of the arm that holds a long sword.]
I would never have known someone like her in that false life this place gave us.
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[ Blasphemous, no doubt, even to Ethlyn -- but he says it with the quiet confidence of someone who isn't saying it for the sake of it. It isn't that Claude is a non-believer. He believes that the Goddess existed in some fashion, believes in the gods of the sea, the sky, the earth and the air, believes in a greater spiritualism that binds them together. But faith in a deity takes very little bravery, when the only consequence is that your faith will not be rewarded.
Faith in your fellow man? That is far, far more difficult. ]
I'm glad it was given to you, once it was earned. Many times, faith has been earned, but isn't so freely given. [ He takes a sip of his own tea, letting the bitter, woody flavour wash over his tongue. ]
There wasn't much to inspire faith in that false life, though. It felt as though... it was conjuring up a life that was simpler, more peaceful than the one that we'd known. To convince us to carry on with the lie, perhaps. I'm still not sure what to make of it.
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The intercession of Jugdral's gods was so recent that it's hard for her not to have faith in them. A mere one hundred-eight years ago. Her great-grandparents had been children of the continent's heroes, the ones touched by gods, and that blessing still ran strong in her father and brother.
But a god is a distant and remote being. The human next to you? A very different matter. Ethlyn would like to see Claude and Ayra meet now... she would like to see Ayra again herself, and ask her directly about this.]
...That is sadly true. Trust is so very difficult to give. [She sighs, looking into her teacup.] There were no stakes in that life, nothing that had any kind of risk beyond temporary embarrassment. Certainly nothing that would make us need to trust or suspect.
Why do you think we were given those chances to regain our memories?
[It's a question that occurred to her when she spoke to Ange about it. Those artifacts and heirlooms, they were put there by someone. But the motive... Ethlyn still isn't sure.]
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[ He can't figure it out. If the powers-that-be here are able to make them docile and powerless at-will, then why wouldn't they do so all the time? Is it for their own amusement? Some strange attempt at true rehabilitation? Was it to prove a point?
It doesn't make sense. It's impossible for it to make sense, because whoever is in charge doesn't think like an ordinary human being, their reasonings myopic, vague, senseless. ]
I would say they wanted to give us a choice, but we didn't have one, in the end. We were all returned to our original forms. Or perhaps it was to test us, and our dedication to our past lives, but it's difficult to gauge dedication when we didn't even remember them -- the only reason I ran towards mine wasn't out of any respect for who I used to be, but because I'm terribly nosy. Or maybe it was to convince us that our life in Aldrip is better, and we're better off staying here than going home.
[ He shrugs. ]
I don't know. What do you think?
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We do keep talking about they. The Council, presumably. It could just have been a method to test our dedication, but... I wonder if they aren't actually a monolith.
Maybe the difference is simply that I failed the test and you didn't--but most people were just as nosy or stubborn as you, and they picked up every thing that came into view. Maybe it was a way to make the illusion fail over the whole town.
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[ He laces his fingers together atop the table. ]
I don't believe you failed any test. Frankly, I think they just want to spread discordance and confusion -- or maybe they think some people will grow complacent here, if they remember a happier life. [ He glances out the window. ]
Or it was an error. And we were all brought there so they could figure out this new city, and everything we saw and went through is seen as negligible.